OpenSolaris vs Nexenta: Distro Wars
12 Apr '09 - 08:23 by benrOpenSolaris is drawing close to its 3rd distribution release. Nexenta is closed to releasing NCP 2. It's nearing the time to decide. Here are some of my thoughts in an attempt to stimulate the conversation after recently spending some time with both.
Nexenta really is impressive. NCP is true to its name, its a core and nothing more. Despite that, if you're not a Windows...erm, I mean, GNOME, fan this simply means there is less crap to uninstall post install. The number of packages in Nexenta Apt is very impressive, not everything you'll want is there but all the build environment basics are there. Installing software using apt is fast... scary fast. So fast that I often didn't believe it truly installed the software but indeed it had. But best of all, Nexenta lets you build software as though you were on Linux, very few porting changes required. Solaris kernel, ZFS, DTrace and you can compile software without getting suicidal? Amazing! Nexenta warms my heart.
The only disadvantages for Nexenta are that it lags behind Nevada bits quite a lot and finding components from Nevada can be tricky.
OpenSolaris has that nifty installer LiveCD and is powered by IPS... but comes with traditional baggage. IPS is slow compared to apt, package naming is confusing and frustrating (SUNW has got to go, seriously people), and often times its hard to tell if you've installed all the bits you want (more Metapackages required). IPS seems to want to re-index and re-fetch catalogs way too often causing even simple actions to slow down even further. And the old GNU or SysV debate seems to still rage in IPS repos making software as painful to build as always. Never the less, IPS Images (boot environments) are a clever use of ZFS but of course rules out UFS root which shockingly some people do still prefer (namely, those of us who like breaking ZFS in unique and torturous ways).
SX:CE is an addiction I admit finding hard to give up. For the Solaris pureist it is what we've known and loved for a decade. Not having to figure out what package includes what feature by simply doing a full install of SX:CE provides you with a very predictable canvas upon which to do amazing things. There are drawbacks but they are well understood and addressed.
And so, what to use? Nexenta provides me with a painless environment in which to build software on my own. OpenSolaris (Indiana) is the future but still has a lot of maturing to do and making it what I want is a considerable investment of time (ie: make it dev friendly like Nexenta). SX:CE is still near and dear to my heart but I am constantly threatened with its ultimate demise, which thankfully still hasn't happened.
So what is your choice? If you're hooked on SX:CE, when you're forced to choose which will you embrace? Or will you abandon Nevada for S10 when that happens? Is this an Indiana vs Nexenta debate or really an Apt vs IPS debate, or even a GNU friendly vs not so much discussion?
Good post. I have been torn by the seemingly many directions “Solaris” is headed in and where to park oneself who is sort of a sort of interested in Solaris but any investment in time to learn will not go wasted. I have always had a warm spot next to my heart for Solaris OS, but the past few years make me sort of feel muddled and confused.
S10 – Would be my #1 choice for mission critical and/or serious work. But is it safe with the talks of IBM buyout? Others? Slow adaption is good for stability, but it feels like Opensolaris is pulling further ahead in difference to make one feel like S10 is headed to irrelevant. Not much momentum left for S10.
SX:CE – This would be my perfect Solaris as it is more updated than true S10. Rather than S10 for the big boys, SX:CE could be for rest of us Solaris fans and venturous; Testing out newer ideas and versions that would then get reverted back to S10. Akin to Fedora/RHEL. Installing SX:CE means you are learning SOLARIS and getting to use the outstanding cohesive Sun userland rather than the botched together GNU/Bash/etc. BUT huge freakin download (a minimal ISO then network install of what is chosen for rest would be nice) AND NO SUPPORT from Sun (but they offer for Opensolaris so we can see where they want to be headed.. away from their roots of S10).
OpenSolaris – Too “linuxy” for me. If I wanted bash, GNU etc I would use more mature linux. Also extremely bloated and feeling of being bandaged. 2008.11 and the beta 2009’s felt less responsive on same hardware as Vista for christ sake. Ridiculous RAM requirements of 2gb just for a desktop system to browse web,etc (where others can do with less than a 1gb) Benchmarks I have done also put Opensolaris at bottom of pack between Freebsd/linux. Poor marks and also not being able to find a stable 4.3 GCC to install made me throw up my arms and wipe HD.
-Nexenta – Commend the effort but a HUGE “WHY! Just because one can doesn’t mean one should. Why in gods name would one run Nexenta over just Ubuntu (or its many derivatives)? ZFS/Dtrace is not worth that much. And if they are, then use OpenSolaris and support its development.
You also forgot about Belenix.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose, but I always comforted in the fact that Solaris was stable, well documented and was simply ONE “distro” that could run same software with little change throughout its release. Then they had to go make it open source but off in a completely different direction with drastic changes and trying to be a linux (I blame bringing Ian Murdoch on as the pivot point).
Look, I don’t have the answers for them on how to run and survive their company vs the onslaught of Linux and cheap commodity hardware. They are grasping at straws and their management sucks. The engineers are outstanding and have made some ridiculously great tools and kept Solaris rock steady for so long. But now the company itself is taking on water and slowly sinking so they have to try whatever they can to get some momentum going. I don’t want to see Sun bought then dismantled as I always liked Sun, but I’d rather have them bought then the current path of pulling in so many directions.
I recently took on a new biz of network storage. I wanted Solaris as my first choice. I even picked out hardware supported by Opensolaris. But my attempt at the last two beta’s and then the release of 2008.11 left me in discontent. Very sad. Disk benchmarking put Opensolaris in dead least and about 90% WORSE than fresh Debian Sid. About 60% worse than FreeBSD 7.1 release. I also was miffed that I just spent an hour to install Opensolaris to hard drive (longest by far to transfer files to hard drive during install) with over 3gb’s of install yet gcc was not installed and best one available at IPS was a laughable 3x series. Could have went Blastwave with 4.2 (I think it was) but that defeated why I was torturing myself with Opensolaris. So in the end I decided I needed to get work done and installed OpenSuse (which I have about same experience as Opensolaris and also actually despise linux crap). BUT I had a functioning (and fast) NAS box setup in good time and not a hitch.
Anyway, thanks for your blog.
Budman - 12 April '09 - 09:40
There are some plans being worked on for a pretty wide sweeping package renaming. I don’t know how long out that is, but here’s a listing with old and new names from late Feb:[[http://cr.opensolaris.org/~richb/packa..]]
I would hope that when it finally comes time to stop producing SXCE as a separate download, the various bits that today are only available on SXCE ( CDE, StarOffice, and the other encumbered bits ) would be available through the pkg.sun.com repository using your sun.com login id. Right pkg.sun.com just holds a few things like VirtualBox and Flash.
The best would be some sort of meta “solaris-express” IPS package, which would pull down all the packages that you’d find on the current SXCE iso image.
As for the complaint about it being too “linuxy”, that’s not such a big deal to me. For users who have grown up using the GNU tools, it makes their life easier when switching over. And an old unix hand who cut my teeth on all the old System V tools, changing my PATH takes care of that. There are still some rough edges ( things like GNU chown being the default, but it doesn’t handle zfs acls ), but not insurmountable problems.
Ivan Richwalski (Email) (URL) - 12 April '09 - 14:27
You forgot about Belenix.We have spkg which provides nearly all that IPS does (there’s one specific thing that we don’t support, but that’s because we’re using SVR4 which we’ll move away from very soon). spkg lets the user upgrade and downgrade seamlessly. Moinak and I definitely use this on our home systems and I use this on my work laptop. Since spkg uses SVR4 for the time being, the entire Belenix repo can be easily mirrored (I maintain a local mirror at work).
We’re working toward a 0.8 release and will be incorporating a some new features that we’ve worked on so far.
For the longer term, we’ve decided to align ourselves with the osunix effort, and will be working on improving that platform so that all distros can benefit from that effort.
Sriram Narayanan (Email) (URL) - 12 April '09 - 15:35
Great post. I can’t decide which version I need.I want ZFS file server.
I want stability.
I want to be able to install or complie software as needed.
I want a minimal install since the box is headless.
So which version is right for me?
I like FreeBSD, but their ZFS support is still unstable and flaky.
Joe - 12 April '09 - 17:49
@Ben:There were some several performance issues in IPS that were recently fixed (across builds 110, 111, and even in the upcoming 112). Those fixes have:
- significantly reduced memory usage for image-update from around 500mb to around 140mb
- significantly reduced package installation time (as an example, installing SUNWzsh with the download files cached only takes about 4.7 seconds real time on my system)
- significantly reduced search indexing time
- made the package system smarter about when to check for catalog updates
...etc. IPS should now very comparable to apt in terms of speed, although the transport system for IPS needs major improvement, and that has been in progress over the last few months (and should be implemented soon after 2009.06).
If you have ideas for metapackages, please file bugs at defect.opensolaris.org under packaging. There’s a been a few new ones added recently (such as one created by Liane Praza to make life easier for ON developers). However, most users will find “ss-dev” (for SunStudio) or “gcc-dev” cover their development needs.
As always, the pkg developers are happy to discuss any issues you have on pkg-discuss.
@Sriram:
No, spkg is a long ways away from providing the functionality that IPS does despite whatever Moinak’s assertions are to the contrary.
@Budman:
As was noted on the mailing lists, you have specific hardware or other issues that are causing your problems. An install of OpenSolaris 200x on four different systems I have at home has taken fifteen minutes or less. One of them took six minutes using a USB stick. It’s unfortunate that you are experiencing these issues, but bugs and/or hardware are the problem, not the OS in general.
Cheers,
-Shawn
Shawn Walker (Email) - 12 April '09 - 18:16
@Ben:Before I forget, as one of the others mentioned, package renaming is next on the list. There are a few technical (and logistical) problems that need to be resolved before “the great package renaming” can happen, but when it does, expect sanity in naming, such as:
SUNWgnu-coreutils -> command/gnu-coreutils
SUNWfctl -> driver/storage/fibre-channel
SUNWvim -> editor/vim
...etc.
Look here for the possible future:
[[http://cr.opensolaris.org/~richb/packa..]]
Cheers,
-Shawn
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@ Budman“Also extremely bloated and feeling of being bandaged. 2008.11 and the beta 2009’s felt less responsive on same hardware as Vista for christ sake. Ridiculous RAM requirements of 2gb just for a desktop system to browse web,etc (where others can do with less than a 1gb) Benchmarks I have done also put Opensolaris at bottom of pack between Freebsd/linux.”
I’m not following the thread Shawn Walker referred to, but yes you are quiet obviously having serious problems with whatever platform you are using.
I have two mid-range Dell workstations running OSOL 2008.11, performance is very snappy, install from disc is consistently faster than Ubuntu and typically completes in under 20 minutes with no-post install drivers necessary. The performance and stability is such that I have moved entirely off Linux to OSOL as my fulltime OS, and I have a PoC for a small business to provide file sharing services using it.
My third development machine runs Solaris 10, the crummy user environment notwithstanding it’s incredibly powerful and stable.
In short, Solaris/OpenSolaris for me, hands down.
Dave (Email) - 13 April '09 - 03:59
I personally am currently running the release version of OpenSolaris at 2008.11 as a file server, and while I wish there was a way to remove all of the desktop cruft that is installed standard, I have not found that it gets in the way.The server is very fast, unfortunately it has issues with my motherboards AHCI, and thus IDE emulation is enabled, but besides that the speed for writing/reading from disk is blazingly fast, using RAIDZ.
IPS while still slow, it sounds like it is going to be fixed, and I am happy about that, as well as the package naming!
Before I settled on OpenSolaris for the file server I tested Linux with LVM, and it was the worst experience I ever had. When I emulated a failed disk Linux did not know how to deal with it properly, and gave me no good way to rebuild the array.
FreeBSD did better with its gvinum, however it was not perfect and still left the undesirable write-hole. While ZFS is possible on FreeBSD, and I hope that it soon becomes stable so that I may use it on other servers it was not a good choice either. ZFS caused the machine to crash, and gvinum did not provide the protection of my data I was looking for.
Now that I have OpenSolaris up and running I find myself constantly creating new test zones to play with, I am finally doing proper backups, using zfs send, as well as taking snap shots before I go ahead and do anything that could seriously damage a file system. Using the raidz file system I can store both my media and my backups of other machines, and I am able to saturate a gigbit connection easily when transferring files to and from the machine.
I was thoroughly impressed with OpenSolaris as a file server.
The other place I use OpenSolaris is on my desktop machine on a removable sled drive. It auto-detected my atheros wireless card, let me configure it using the graphical utility, it has been stable, fast and very easy to use.
I played with Nexenta, but I really don’t like apt-get, never liked it in Debian and Ununtu and did not like it on ZFS. Not sure why.
Bert JW Regeer (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 06:35
I like the huge freakin’ download of SX:CE, since i have an image at hand and don’t need to connect the machine to the internet. Disk usage doesn’t matter to me with the best price per gb drives being in the terabyte range.I would like to have an OpenSolaris DVD with all the SX:CE packages and SunStudio. This would be an easy install for my solaris file and experiments server (ok! this is not the best combination, but the machine is paid by me not the public or my boss).
Knut Grunwald (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 10:05
As you said, Ben, Nexenta is nice for its core features, small is beautiful, and they also offer commercial version with some custom coding, including plugin for vmware, however, as any other port they suffer from lag behind the latest fixes/features + porting can add new bugs (thinking about ZFS on FreeBSD..).I think OpenSolaris is the way to go. Packaging is ok, what’s important is the core, the base, and services, till this is rock solid and plays well with the world around, the rest is just “bells and whistles”. Desktop/Gnome tools are mostly useless and just eating disk space, except maybe when you have trouble installing a driver of that newly added network card, afterwards just fire up “putty” (on XP/Vista) or “iTerm” (on Mac) with ssh to OpenSolaris host and get the work done.
evaldas (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 11:17
Hello Ben!I like to think the OpenSolaris OS will be the GNU/Linux version (Debian). So, i really want to believe in OpenSolaris… i think it’s more important you know something well, than use the “better” (if that phrase makes any sense ;).
Leal (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 15:28
I’ve been running Sol10, OpenSolaris and Nexenta in production as fileservers for a couple of years now. I don’t see any serious difference in production quality between them after that period of time. Having a GNU/Linux userland has been really great with Nexenta.While I don’t think any of them are significantly than the others, Nexenta is winning me over from an ease of use point of view. Not only that, but getting good support from the commercial entity (Nexenta.com) has been very easy.
Honestly, I think it would behoove Sun to embrace the idea of GNU/Solaris. I think a Sun-backed Nexenta could have a great chance of bringing the goodness that is Solaris to the masses.
As a brief example of why OpenSolaris/Solaris hurts: /usr/sfw/bin/ggrep
Come on, Sun. Making the GNU utils second fiddle to your own doesn’t help anyone.
—Randy Bias
Sun Fan since 1986
Randy Bias (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 16:00
I also believe that OpenSolaris distros (or some of them) must show respect for pkgsrc from NetBSD project. It is not crap. It needs some love.Vasileios Anagnostopoulos (Email) - 13 April '09 - 17:57
I’m a big fan of both Nexenta and OpenSolaris. I use OpenSolaris (kept up to date with IPS and the latest development code) for my home file server – the ability to seamlessly and easily expose the shares to my Linux VMs and Mac OS X machines over NFS and to my wife’s Windows laptop via CIFS is great. The integration with MS shadow copy is pretty nifty, too.I develop my personal coding projects for NexentaCP 2 (moved over recently from Debian Lenny). It’s clean and straightforward. Good stuff all around.
JT (Email) (URL) - 13 April '09 - 22:05
For some time now, Solaris has been turning into Linux. If I wanted Linux, I’d use Linux.I’m not stuck in the past, I love ZFS, zones, crossbow, dtrace, (SMF is a love/hate relationship!) but I don’t want two (at least!) versions of every Unix command. I don’t care about packaging, I use a very few non-core tools, and they’re easy to ./configure; make; make install.
For me, the OpenSolaris thing is another example of Sun’s schizophrenic loss of focus. I think Solaris should be THE enterprise O/S. It’s miles ahead of linux there. Leave the translucent window manager and digital camera support to the bedroom hobby people. Make it smaller. make it faster, make it #1 for serious users, and stop trying to please the Slashdot mob.
I’d like to see Sun continue to produce SX:CE, but in a smaller, tighter form—pretty much just a bare O/S. Leave the desktops and office suites and gigabytes of crap to the distribution makers. As for OpenSolaris – I couldn’t care less. I think if they can SX:CE, I’ll go back to 5.10, because at least it’s Solaris.
arr - 14 April '09 - 12:54
If you don’t like the opensolaris distro cruft, you could always create a personal one with distro constructor. That is what I did to trim down the distro to fit in my EEE with only 4GiB of storage, removing all the things I don’t need like drivers for high end servers, the a11y stuff and others I don’t need. You could also add the things you do need like the dev tools you mentioned…Sergio Schvezov (Email) - 16 April '09 - 11:01
I’m in the same position as Joe, looking at setting up a new fileserver with ZFS. I played with FreeBSD, but as he notes, their ZFS support isn’t very stable yet. The real deal-breaker is the lack of NFSv4 automounting support. I’m looking at using this for home directories, one FS per user, so manually exporting and mounting every filesystem is not an option.My test install of OpenSolaris went well, but when I installed updates it broke and I never successfully got it to boot again. This makes me leery of using it in production.
Right now I’m leaning towards Solaris 10, but I’ll have to check out Nexenta.
David Brodbeck (Email) - 16 April '09 - 18:40
Wow, so many comments. let me give you the large corporate datacenter perspective: Opensolaris is too linux-y. When I show it to long term linux users, they would rather run Ubuntu (which runs great on an Ultra 24 BTW), and when I show it to my old Solaris peers they still prefer CDE over gnome (yes in 2009) and dismiss Opensolaris as something from outer space.I have no experience with Nexenta, but I have been grafting the GNU core utils and dozens of pkgs from sunfreeware.com for well over a decade. So I really don’t see the need for Nexenta but more power to them.
I LOVE SXCE. It contains the core OS, Staroffice, dia, meld, firefox, gcc and gimp all at the time of install. What’s not to love? opensolaris is an single CD image of less than 700MB, how can it HOPE to compete with the 5+GB of SXCE. It was trendy a few years back to ‘hate SUVs’... but bigger really is more functional, flexible and pleasing to more people. If I want miniscule ‘small is beautiful’ I’ll play around with those “How small can we make Opensolaris / build your own custom mini-root” pages.
But ultimately, all Intel/AMD/x64/x86 distro of Opensolaris/SXCE are just playthings that don’t run “real production” (that’s what UNsupported by Sunsolve means). I will be running Oracle on sparc solaris 10/11 long after some of the readers in this thread move on to other careers outside of IT.
PS Budman – NFS was BORN in Solaris and I find it laughable you say OpenSUSE does NFS better? I’m not even sure NetApp does NFS better than Sun. And yes I have bought them all.
svrocket (Email) - 17 April '09 - 07:04
PS Budman – NFS was BORN in Solaris and I find it laughable you say OpenSUSE does NFS better???
You mis-read, I never mentioned NFS.
It’s unfortunate that you are experiencing these issues, but bugs and/or hardware are the problem, not the OS in general.
Not the OS??
In the most respectful and sincere way; that is a crock. I have run 4 different OS’s on the exact same server and Opensolaris was BY far the worst performing in the particular benchmark I was using (blogbench).
Sure blogbench is definitely not the end all of benchmarks, but I like tests that try to simulate real-world and hammering a server OS as a real busy web server handling 100’s of blog users/writers/commentators is as good as any. Test the whole instead of cherry-picking micro benchmarks.
As matter of fact, 2009.109 GUI was SO unresponsive during testing I had to hard power the PC off as it locked up. 2009.110 was better as was 2008.11. Please tell me how it isn’t the OS when the other ones resulted in much higher scores plus weren’t molasses during testing?
Look, I REALLY have a soft spot for Solaris ever since back 10 years ago I was doing penetration testing for a large school district and looking up security reports for all the OS’s the school was using. They had RH and NT running all over the place but some teacher insisted on having a Solaris 2.6 box running. I remember being amazed at fewer vulnerabilities reported for Solaris that I kept up with its news and have played with it since. But in the end, there is work to be done and as the old saying goes “use the best tool for the job”. I don’t like the mess of linux but hey, it has made tremendous ground but most importantly it WORKS, pretty darn good.
I hope Solaris survives through any buyout though. There is a lot of unknowns at this point and in my opinion, the multiple and confusing directions Sun seems to want to be taking their premier product make me nervous. “We have S10 for our customers who still require it and over there we have what we call Opensolaris that still has the comfortable Solaris name you all know but feeling that we need to gain some momentum somehow, decided to pull a 180 and turn us into a linux clone with ZFS/Zones/Dtrace). Soon linux will have Btfs and then only two reasons left for maybe considering Opensolaris.
Momentum is VERY VERY hard to change in the OS world more than anywhere else. “better” never wins as eventually what made them better just gets copied to the dominating ones anyway. BeOS was light years ahead of its time as a desktop OS for example. Now windows pretty much does all the things that made it so compelling while BeOS is in the museum.
It sucks but it happens. Once linux can scale to 64+ processors without major performance issues and has the ZFS copy-cat Btfs or Tux3, it’s lights out for the old stalwarts of real UNIX imo. Linux already has killed one (Irix) when ILM decided to move on as linux caught up to RT rendering, others are putting up better fights.
Sucks and I hope Solaris takes off and I am here 5 years from now pitching how Opensolaris killed linux, but I won’t hold my breath.
Budman - 17 April '09 - 10:05
Budman that was not you?beneath the article is a delimiter
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and the comments belong to the poster above. Whomever said
>>“why I was torturing myself with Opensolaris. So in the end I decided I needed to get work done and installed OpenSuse (which I have about same experience as Opensolaris and also actually despise linux crap). BUT I had a functioning (and fast) NAS box setup in good time and not a hitch.”
was who I was replying to. The phrase “despise linux” seems associated with your context. If you carry a torch for BeOS, you might be the 2000s incarnation of the guys in the 90s who carry a soft spot in their heart for OS/2 warp.
svrocket - 17 April '09 - 20:23
We already have Linux. We already have Debian. We already have Red Hat. And we already have Ubuntu. I don’t see no point in creating a copy of any of these. As someone said, when BRTFS comes into play, it will be bye bye ZFS/Solaris.For Solaris to survive, it must keep the differences and stop copying. Why would users use copy instead of the real thing. As someone mentioned, Linux users will always choose Ubuntu over OpenSolaris, no matter if default shell is bash, if enviroment is GNU and root is just a role and not a user that can log in anymore. It’s sad to see SYSV dying. Sun, focus!!! The day Solaris 10 / SXCE start being replaced with OpenSolaris by Ian Murdoch gang, is the day I’ll stop using Solaris and go back to the original (Linux).
jsosic (Email) - 17 April '09 - 23:10
budman:if you wanted just a NAS image of opensolaris..
may i suggest EON (Embedded ON) NAS (Network Attached Storage)
opensolaris has my vote but.. lack of gcc 4.x support and PCFS (fat32) is soo slow its cruel vs linux or windows writing to it..
brad - 20 April '09 - 23:42
Reading all the comments makes me aware that Solaris is an OS very much loved by its users. Some of them doesn’t want to adapt to changes and maybe the old UI already suits their purpose so its up to them.But for me, I somehow hope that Solaris is not only liked by its current users, but can reach the masses, the non-technical person and for that to happen it has to embrace the desktop users. If it becomes linuxy or windowish or macos-ish I don’t really care.
Solaris is GREAT for servers, but I has to admit is still behind (although catching up quite fast) Linux, Windows and MacOS for desktop purposes. So in that sense I am very interested to try Nexenta. Maybe Sun kan keep CDE as an option for those server admin that already love it. Some users are very individualistic and care about what they like to use and didn’t care if the others have difficulty using the same OS. For me, I am currently exploring with OpenSolaris in my notebook and marvels how much it has evolve so new person can quickly learn to use it compared to before.
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I think that Solaris is really impressive when you look at it’s unique features, such as ZFS, Zones, DTrace etc.Yes, building the software from sources can become very painful, but this can be solved in principle. For instance, there can be some API compatibility layer.
Or, which is better, if many people will use it and contribute to the development of applications which looks like a case.
And here comes the problem – the installability of Solaris is simply worse than the installability of Linux? for instance, although it is impoving rapidly.
Another problem is that many people want Solaris look like Linux or BSD, they don’t like package management or SMF.
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