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		<title>By: Henk Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26636</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drone, 

If you like that metaphor, I recommend Don Reinertsen&#039;s book on 
&#039;The Principles of Product Development FLOW/Second Generation Lean Product Development.&#039;

Don takes examples from different realms, from manufacturing to Operating System Design to Military Operations.  A very good read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drone, </p>
<p>If you like that metaphor, I recommend Don Reinertsen&#8217;s book on<br />
&#8216;The Principles of Product Development FLOW/Second Generation Lean Product Development.&#8217;</p>
<p>Don takes examples from different realms, from manufacturing to Operating System Design to Military Operations.  A very good read.</p>
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		<title>By: Henk Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26635</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.K.,

The issue that you mention is the challenge of dealing with Transaction Costs.  This is where you find a significant difference between a kanban system in manufacturing and the Kanban method as explained by David Anderson for knowledge work.

Every type of work has its own type of transaction cost.  For manufacturing this involves transport, order processing, setup time for a work station.

Knowledge work has hidden transaction costs: and all cost/waste in knowledge work is typically expressed in time.  Time spent waiting, time spent in switching context.

Kanban will make this kind of cost very visible, and measurable. Once you measure things, you can do something.

Start small, and evolve your kanban system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.K.,</p>
<p>The issue that you mention is the challenge of dealing with Transaction Costs.  This is where you find a significant difference between a kanban system in manufacturing and the Kanban method as explained by David Anderson for knowledge work.</p>
<p>Every type of work has its own type of transaction cost.  For manufacturing this involves transport, order processing, setup time for a work station.</p>
<p>Knowledge work has hidden transaction costs: and all cost/waste in knowledge work is typically expressed in time.  Time spent waiting, time spent in switching context.</p>
<p>Kanban will make this kind of cost very visible, and measurable. Once you measure things, you can do something.</p>
<p>Start small, and evolve your kanban system.</p>
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		<title>By: Henk Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26634</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Start with what you know/do already, and take it from there.
The Kanban method scales very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Start with what you know/do already, and take it from there.<br />
The Kanban method scales very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Programmingdrone</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26565</link>
		<dc:creator>Programmingdrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of unix operating system internal concepts like semaphore and mutex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of unix operating system internal concepts like semaphore and mutex.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26528</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re a large manufacturer who&#039;s able to dictate to suppliers, then it&#039;s great.  There are overheads and waste no matter what system you use - obviously the aim is just to lower them as much as possible, while also limiting the risk to the business.

 As you suggest, it wouldn&#039;t be for everyone.  I imagine that most readers of this blog have experienced management reading about a system like this and then attempting to implement it in a completely inappropriate environment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re a large manufacturer who&#8217;s able to dictate to suppliers, then it&#8217;s great.  There are overheads and waste no matter what system you use &#8211; obviously the aim is just to lower them as much as possible, while also limiting the risk to the business.</p>
<p> As you suggest, it wouldn&#8217;t be for everyone.  I imagine that most readers of this blog have experienced management reading about a system like this and then attempting to implement it in a completely inappropriate environment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26527</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha.  Also en_GB and was shaking my head at the idea that the consequences of driving and using the phone are &#039;trivial&#039;.   I guess that social conditioning is working!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha.  Also en_GB and was shaking my head at the idea that the consequences of driving and using the phone are &#8216;trivial&#8217;.   I guess that social conditioning is working!</p>
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		<title>By: mdinh</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26489</link>
		<dc:creator>mdinh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brings back old memory when learning JIT for manufacturing over 15 yrs ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brings back old memory when learning JIT for manufacturing over 15 yrs ago.</p>
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		<title>By: G. K.</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26405</link>
		<dc:creator>G. K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all sounds well and good until I read this line:

&quot;At a Toyota plant, they don’t receive parts every week, they receive them every couple hours!&quot;

There is tremendous overhead associated with making multiple parts deliveries per day (loading/unloading/delivery + all associated manpower costs).  This overhead translates into a significant amount of waste.  This works if you are vertically integrated and can absorb all that waste, but this seems highly implausible for anything but the largest companies with the best supply chains and strangleholds over their suppliers.  

Toyota, the 9th largest manufacturer in the world, can do this.  What about the little guys?  This doesn&#039;t seem like a very financially lean process to me.

Going back to kanban as a personal time management, yes, it does help highlight flaws in your workflow, but it also seems like there is a lot of overhead that never gets factored in.  It strikes me as if this method really only benefits those who grossly mismanage time and have no clue how to organize their lives.  For everyone else, there may be a small benefit, but the overhead digs deeply into that.

Am I missing something here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all sounds well and good until I read this line:</p>
<p>&#8220;At a Toyota plant, they don’t receive parts every week, they receive them every couple hours!&#8221;</p>
<p>There is tremendous overhead associated with making multiple parts deliveries per day (loading/unloading/delivery + all associated manpower costs).  This overhead translates into a significant amount of waste.  This works if you are vertically integrated and can absorb all that waste, but this seems highly implausible for anything but the largest companies with the best supply chains and strangleholds over their suppliers.  </p>
<p>Toyota, the 9th largest manufacturer in the world, can do this.  What about the little guys?  This doesn&#8217;t seem like a very financially lean process to me.</p>
<p>Going back to kanban as a personal time management, yes, it does help highlight flaws in your workflow, but it also seems like there is a lot of overhead that never gets factored in.  It strikes me as if this method really only benefits those who grossly mismanage time and have no clue how to organize their lives.  For everyone else, there may be a small benefit, but the overhead digs deeply into that.</p>
<p>Am I missing something here?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26402</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The driving analogy is a good one: in my locale (en_GB) driving and using a phone has been criminalised, is now very socially unacceptable and is cracked down upon hard, therefore the first bit reads as a much stronger criticism of multitasking than you intended :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The driving analogy is a good one: in my locale (en_GB) driving and using a phone has been criminalised, is now very socially unacceptable and is cracked down upon hard, therefore the first bit reads as a much stronger criticism of multitasking than you intended <img src='http://cuddletech.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: W Sanders</title>
		<link>http://cuddletech.com/blog/?p=723#comment-26397</link>
		<dc:creator>W Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried this personally, since I am a terrible multi-tasker. Nearly impossible to implement without a high level managerial commitment because most people are evaluated by how much work is &quot;in progress&quot; rather than by how much gets actually done. I am rarely deemed &quot;successful&quot; in those situations, even if my goals are met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried this personally, since I am a terrible multi-tasker. Nearly impossible to implement without a high level managerial commitment because most people are evaluated by how much work is &#8220;in progress&#8221; rather than by how much gets actually done. I am rarely deemed &#8220;successful&#8221; in those situations, even if my goals are met.</p>
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